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	<title>Comments on: Cursed Pendulum and the Ticking Clock</title>
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		<title>By: Humorous Searches &#171; Saint Beagle</title>
		<link>http://theprognosis.org/2008/04/15/cursed-pendulum-and-the-ticking-clock/#comment-1272</link>
		<dc:creator>Humorous Searches &#171; Saint Beagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] highest search term leading to theprognosis.org). No doubt searching for the band, instead finding my blog about how Church History is defined by our &#8217;swing&#8217; away from something. Were they impressed? Who [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jetse</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HEy,

Although this discussion is very dated, I like your observation. It&#039;s a general principle that can be found anywhere. I have analysed the World Banks policy history and found that the Bank is constantly shifting its policies around a certain set of values, of which I have defined freedom, rightousness and care. Actually what we are talking about are reactionary movements. In the end I think that these shouldn&#039;t be seen as movements around some equilibrium or centre, it are merely movements that express the idea of such a centre. This idea functions as the foundation for the reactionary movements that can be seen as expressions of peoples concerns with &#039;the good&#039; as can be expressed in certain values. There is an extreme side to each movement but the movements in general can, i think, not be characterized as extreme or around the centre. The core of the movement is always close to the centre. As long as this is the case we can reasonably speak of &#039;the church&#039; rather than a sect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HEy,</p>
<p>Although this discussion is very dated, I like your observation. It&#8217;s a general principle that can be found anywhere. I have analysed the World Banks policy history and found that the Bank is constantly shifting its policies around a certain set of values, of which I have defined freedom, rightousness and care. Actually what we are talking about are reactionary movements. In the end I think that these shouldn&#8217;t be seen as movements around some equilibrium or centre, it are merely movements that express the idea of such a centre. This idea functions as the foundation for the reactionary movements that can be seen as expressions of peoples concerns with &#8216;the good&#8217; as can be expressed in certain values. There is an extreme side to each movement but the movements in general can, i think, not be characterized as extreme or around the centre. The core of the movement is always close to the centre. As long as this is the case we can reasonably speak of &#8216;the church&#8217; rather than a sect.</p>
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		<title>By: 2008 - The year that was. &#171; the proGnosis</title>
		<link>http://theprognosis.org/2008/04/15/cursed-pendulum-and-the-ticking-clock/#comment-493</link>
		<dc:creator>2008 - The year that was. &#171; the proGnosis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 08:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with us (actually we had more readers instantly some how), The most noticeable post was &#8220;Cursed Pendulum and the Ticking Clock&#8221; which wasn&#8217;t particularly interesting but is still ensnaring poor souls who search for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://theprognosis.org/2008/04/15/cursed-pendulum-and-the-ticking-clock/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont have any answers probably, just an anecdote. My pastor at church has a big study bible in his office, on it is a small wooden cross (a page marker) and above is a pendulum which hangs dead centre over the Bible...it is there, he says, to remind him to be biblically balanced and not to go off on one extreme or the other....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont have any answers probably, just an anecdote. My pastor at church has a big study bible in his office, on it is a small wooden cross (a page marker) and above is a pendulum which hangs dead centre over the Bible&#8230;it is there, he says, to remind him to be biblically balanced and not to go off on one extreme or the other&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gethin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gethin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are you sure the plural isn&#039;t pendula? :-P
anyway, it&#039;s true that it does feel like we&#039;re often just reacting to something else.
what brings us back to the centre? ask a sunday school kid - they&#039;ll know the right answer - it&#039;s the same one they always give.
what boots us out? probably people forgetting what brought them to the centre in the first place and generally forgetting to be reasonable and moderate.
is it important to realise we might swing too far? yes - and that might be the first step to not doing it?

i think a good example of how it could be done is new word alive which i was at last week - so it split from spring harvest mainly as a reaction of mr.chalke&#039;s writings and that issue wasn&#039;t hidden, the speakers were all open about that - piper, for example, made it really clear that he came to support the reaction and when he got to speaking about penal substitution, he made it clear that &quot;this is why this conference exists&quot; - but it certainly didn&#039;t feel like a week of anti-chalke stuff with everyone quoting that infamous paragraph from his book (in fact i didn&#039;t hear anyone quote it) or with every talk just about penal substitution. so that might be a good example of a sensible reaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are you sure the plural isn&#8217;t pendula? <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
anyway, it&#8217;s true that it does feel like we&#8217;re often just reacting to something else.<br />
what brings us back to the centre? ask a sunday school kid &#8211; they&#8217;ll know the right answer &#8211; it&#8217;s the same one they always give.<br />
what boots us out? probably people forgetting what brought them to the centre in the first place and generally forgetting to be reasonable and moderate.<br />
is it important to realise we might swing too far? yes &#8211; and that might be the first step to not doing it?</p>
<p>i think a good example of how it could be done is new word alive which i was at last week &#8211; so it split from spring harvest mainly as a reaction of mr.chalke&#8217;s writings and that issue wasn&#8217;t hidden, the speakers were all open about that &#8211; piper, for example, made it really clear that he came to support the reaction and when he got to speaking about penal substitution, he made it clear that &#8220;this is why this conference exists&#8221; &#8211; but it certainly didn&#8217;t feel like a week of anti-chalke stuff with everyone quoting that infamous paragraph from his book (in fact i didn&#8217;t hear anyone quote it) or with every talk just about penal substitution. so that might be a good example of a sensible reaction.</p>
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